Comments on: Homeless Are "Face of Downtown" Too http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/ CHANGE THE GAME Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:59:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dave http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/comment-page-1/#comment-14262 Dave Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:08:00 +0000 http://www.pubdef.net/?p=2394#comment-14262 Your post is unnecessarily controversial. The city and private groups are doing much to help the homeless. Why does your piece not mention this?<br/><br/>Individuals from the age of 25-34 aren't necessarily hipsters. The more correct term is "young professionals." I think one would expect more hipsters in the loop and CWE than downtown.<br/><br/>It's clear you're prejudiced against downtown development and have a very narrow view of downtown life. Fortunately, you are still young and may gain necessary wisdom through more experience. <br/><br/>You use pathos to appeal to people's emotions yet your logos is faulty, hurting your ethos. Poor guy. Your post is unnecessarily controversial. The city and private groups are doing much to help the homeless. Why does your piece not mention this?

Individuals from the age of 25-34 aren’t necessarily hipsters. The more correct term is “young professionals.” I think one would expect more hipsters in the loop and CWE than downtown.

It’s clear you’re prejudiced against downtown development and have a very narrow view of downtown life. Fortunately, you are still young and may gain necessary wisdom through more experience.

You use pathos to appeal to people’s emotions yet your logos is faulty, hurting your ethos. Poor guy.

]]> By: Po Righteous Teacher http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/comment-page-1/#comment-14251 Po Righteous Teacher Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:29:00 +0000 http://www.pubdef.net/?p=2394#comment-14251 Antonio, I appreciate this forum but I'm just curious: WHY IS IT THAT NO ONE DARES TO RESPOND TO ANY POSTS REGARDING THE 9/21/07 LEGISLATION? Antonio, I appreciate this forum but I’m just curious: WHY IS IT THAT NO ONE DARES TO RESPOND TO ANY POSTS REGARDING THE 9/21/07 LEGISLATION?

]]> By: Po Righteous Teacher http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/comment-page-1/#comment-14249 Po Righteous Teacher Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.pubdef.net/?p=2394#comment-14249 Slay's plan for the homeless is crystal clear, LQQK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS! Slay’s plan for the homeless is crystal clear, LQQK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS!

]]> By: Digitizdat http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/comment-page-1/#comment-14242 Digitizdat Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:57:00 +0000 http://www.pubdef.net/?p=2394#comment-14242 I would expect Slay to condemn anyone who displaces homeless people for any reason other than to help them. I'm also willing to keep an open mind about the ACLU suit, but what is its status? Has it been tried yet? I wouldn't expect Slay to condemn the police department unless they were actually found guilty of that injustice.<br/><br/>And yes, I agree with you that $65,000 per job sounds like a ridiculous subsidy, but if Darlene Green says it's worth it, I trust her. I personally think she's proven to be a capable and trustworthy comptroller. I would expect Slay to condemn anyone who displaces homeless people for any reason other than to help them. I’m also willing to keep an open mind about the ACLU suit, but what is its status? Has it been tried yet? I wouldn’t expect Slay to condemn the police department unless they were actually found guilty of that injustice.

And yes, I agree with you that $65,000 per job sounds like a ridiculous subsidy, but if Darlene Green says it’s worth it, I trust her. I personally think she’s proven to be a capable and trustworthy comptroller.

]]> By: Antonio D. French http://www.pubdef.org/2007/12/08/homeless-are-face-of-downtown-too/comment-page-1/#comment-14241 Antonio D. French Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:15:00 +0000 http://www.pubdef.net/?p=2394#comment-14241 Digitizdat, I don't recall reading about Francis Slay's condemnation of the police department's treatment of downtown's homeless.<br/><br/>I do, however, recall reading about Slay's condemning County cops dumping their homeless in downtown St. Louis (We're trying to get rid of our own, we don't need yours too!).<br/><br/>I don't think anyone is saying we don't want young, educated new residents. But the resources of a poor and middle-class city population shouldn't <b>disproportionately</b> be used to attract these people, who quite frankly have been shown to leave soon after getting married or having children.<br/><br/>Take the new Centene proposal for example:<br/><br/>Centene has promised 1,200 new jobs downtown in the next five years. In return, the city and state must fork over $78 million in tax incentives.<br/><br/><b><i>That's a $65,000 subsidy per job!</i></b> Digitizdat, I don’t recall reading about Francis Slay’s condemnation of the police department’s treatment of downtown’s homeless.

I do, however, recall reading about Slay’s condemning County cops dumping their homeless in downtown St. Louis (We’re trying to get rid of our own, we don’t need yours too!).

I don’t think anyone is saying we don’t want young, educated new residents. But the resources of a poor and middle-class city population shouldn’t disproportionately be used to attract these people, who quite frankly have been shown to leave soon after getting married or having children.

Take the new Centene proposal for example:

Centene has promised 1,200 new jobs downtown in the next five years. In return, the city and state must fork over $78 million in tax incentives.

That’s a $65,000 subsidy per job!

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