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	<title>Comments on: Point/Counterpoint: Ed Martin vs. Local 420 on Unionizing Charter Schools</title>
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		<title>By: Political Fix &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Teacher&#8217;s union fires back at Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Fix &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Teacher&#8217;s union fires back at Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Johann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a sad pathetic turn Ed Martin&#039;s life has taken.  Chief of Staff to a governor some said could be president one day.  Washed up hack on his way to prison the next.</description>
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		<title>By: kjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the board for their nonprofit is ending its programs outside Texas, namely its schools in Baton Rouge and one in St. Louis.


hmmm---wake up, antonio.

NOTE:   THIS IS THE SAME CHARTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT OPERATES IN ST. LOUIS AND WAS ISSUED THE CHARTER DIRECTLY BY DR. KENT KING AND THE MISSOURI STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION (DESE)
 
 
 
 
 
REPORT FROM WBRZ NEWS 2 IN BATON ROUGE, LA
School Board ends deal
By CHARLES LUSSIER 
Advocate staff writer 
May 16, 2008 -. 
The East Baton Rouge Parish School Board on Thursday formally ended a long troubled partnership with a Texas-based charter school group, which created three related programs to educate hundreds of teenagers who are two years or more behind their peers in school.

Instead, the school system will take over the program. It will house the program at the former home of Baton Rouge Preparatory Academy, educating overage students from grades six to 12. Those students are currently educated at three sites, including Glen Oaks and Prescott Middle schools, which next year will be under private management.

Superintendent Charlotte Placide said she hasn’t decided whether the overage program will continue using the methods pioneered by America CAN!

“We have a decision to make,” Placide said.

The CAN! academies of East Baton Rouge were part of a new autonomous school network that included CAN! as well a small high school, the East Baton Rouge Laboratory Academy, that shares space with Istrouma High School. The small schools were funded in part through a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

The new school, however, quickly ran into trouble. Two administrators were replaced, teacher turnover was high, some students fled, and budgets were cut midyear.

At the high school academy, students in September even held a protest demanding a better education. One of the school’s sponsor, Advance Baton Rouge, quit working with CAN! academies and removed references to the group from its Web site.

Still, the program carried on. The school system held CAN! to its one-year contract, and even successfully obtained substantial after-the-fact waivers from the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education.

Richard Marquez and Yolanda Cruz-Wilder, both executives with America CAN!, said the board for their nonprofit is ending its programs outside Texas, namely its schools in Baton Rouge and one in St. Louis.

Marquez handed the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board a resolution to that effect.

“It is what it is, and it says what it says,” Marquez said.

Marquez apologized that the partnership didn’t last long. He urged Placide to continue the expensive model CAN! initiated, namely ample use of mentors and social workers.

“We regret that this day has come, but Ms. Placide, we know how much you care about these children,” Marquez said.

“Yes, we are quite disappointed,” Placide acknowledged. “While we have a model, we didn’t get an opportunity to use it.”

The LSU College of Education is finishing an evaluation of the CAN! academies. Placide said she’s seen an early draft.

“Some of it was good, and some of it was not so good,” Placide said.

Placide apologized to students affected by the early turmoil at the CAN! academies.

“We were disappointed in some ways, and we may have disappointed some students, and that was not our intention,” she said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the board for their nonprofit is ending its programs outside Texas, namely its schools in Baton Rouge and one in St. Louis.</p>
<p>hmmm&#8212;wake up, antonio.</p>
<p>NOTE:   THIS IS THE SAME CHARTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT OPERATES IN ST. LOUIS AND WAS ISSUED THE CHARTER DIRECTLY BY DR. KENT KING AND THE MISSOURI STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION (DESE)</p>
<p>REPORT FROM WBRZ NEWS 2 IN BATON ROUGE, LA<br />
School Board ends deal<br />
By CHARLES LUSSIER<br />
Advocate staff writer<br />
May 16, 2008 -.<br />
The East Baton Rouge Parish School Board on Thursday formally ended a long troubled partnership with a Texas-based charter school group, which created three related programs to educate hundreds of teenagers who are two years or more behind their peers in school.</p>
<p>Instead, the school system will take over the program. It will house the program at the former home of Baton Rouge Preparatory Academy, educating overage students from grades six to 12. Those students are currently educated at three sites, including Glen Oaks and Prescott Middle schools, which next year will be under private management.</p>
<p>Superintendent Charlotte Placide said she hasn’t decided whether the overage program will continue using the methods pioneered by America CAN!</p>
<p>“We have a decision to make,” Placide said.</p>
<p>The CAN! academies of East Baton Rouge were part of a new autonomous school network that included CAN! as well a small high school, the East Baton Rouge Laboratory Academy, that shares space with Istrouma High School. The small schools were funded in part through a grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.</p>
<p>The new school, however, quickly ran into trouble. Two administrators were replaced, teacher turnover was high, some students fled, and budgets were cut midyear.</p>
<p>At the high school academy, students in September even held a protest demanding a better education. One of the school’s sponsor, Advance Baton Rouge, quit working with CAN! academies and removed references to the group from its Web site.</p>
<p>Still, the program carried on. The school system held CAN! to its one-year contract, and even successfully obtained substantial after-the-fact waivers from the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education.</p>
<p>Richard Marquez and Yolanda Cruz-Wilder, both executives with America CAN!, said the board for their nonprofit is ending its programs outside Texas, namely its schools in Baton Rouge and one in St. Louis.</p>
<p>Marquez handed the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board a resolution to that effect.</p>
<p>“It is what it is, and it says what it says,” Marquez said.</p>
<p>Marquez apologized that the partnership didn’t last long. He urged Placide to continue the expensive model CAN! initiated, namely ample use of mentors and social workers.</p>
<p>“We regret that this day has come, but Ms. Placide, we know how much you care about these children,” Marquez said.</p>
<p>“Yes, we are quite disappointed,” Placide acknowledged. “While we have a model, we didn’t get an opportunity to use it.”</p>
<p>The LSU College of Education is finishing an evaluation of the CAN! academies. Placide said she’s seen an early draft.</p>
<p>“Some of it was good, and some of it was not so good,” Placide said.</p>
<p>Placide apologized to students affected by the early turmoil at the CAN! academies.</p>
<p>“We were disappointed in some ways, and we may have disappointed some students, and that was not our intention,” she said.</p>
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		<title>By: kjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 06:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction on what I said about slps attendance. The figures are confusing. The 94 was the state wide average.

evidently, they measure the attendance from January to December, so in a year like 2006-2007, the one in which Bourisaw replaced Williams in July, the 2006 figures include half a year under Williams and half a year with Bourisaw. 

2007 includes the last 6 months under the elected board, and the months after June with the sab. Bourisaw was the superintendent for all of 2007.

The attendance figures for the last five years are....... 2003--89.10.....2004- 89.40.....2005 big dip to 81.50........ 2006--80.30......2007 big improvement to 88.60.

regarding the Texas can school in Houston---they did seem to have less money spent per pupil, larger class sizes, and  significantly younger teachers compared to other Texas schools. Whether that pattern is being repeated with dese outsourcing the job to the can academy in st. louis---well---there is not much information available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction on what I said about slps attendance. The figures are confusing. The 94 was the state wide average.</p>
<p>evidently, they measure the attendance from January to December, so in a year like 2006-2007, the one in which Bourisaw replaced Williams in July, the 2006 figures include half a year under Williams and half a year with Bourisaw. </p>
<p>2007 includes the last 6 months under the elected board, and the months after June with the sab. Bourisaw was the superintendent for all of 2007.</p>
<p>The attendance figures for the last five years are&#8230;&#8230;. 2003&#8211;89.10&#8230;..2004- 89.40&#8230;..2005 big dip to 81.50&#8230;&#8230;.. 2006&#8211;80.30&#8230;&#8230;2007 big improvement to 88.60.</p>
<p>regarding the Texas can school in Houston&#8212;they did seem to have less money spent per pupil, larger class sizes, and  significantly younger teachers compared to other Texas schools. Whether that pattern is being repeated with dese outsourcing the job to the can academy in st. louis&#8212;well&#8212;there is not much information available.</p>
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		<title>By: kjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did notice that the name of the superintendent of the Can academy on Goodfellow, seemed to have the same name as the former superintendent of Houston Can, at 2301 main street in Houston texas. http://www.texanscan.org/academies_main.asp
The school went from unranked to &quot;2&quot; on a scale of 10 on great schools of texas. There is a lot more detailed information on that school than there is on the one dese is running here.

Perhaps the sab could save some time and money on the superintendent search and just have one of the state board members call Texas and tell them to send someone up here to replace Dr. Bourisaw. What good is a state takeover---if they don&#039;t take over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did notice that the name of the superintendent of the Can academy on Goodfellow, seemed to have the same name as the former superintendent of Houston Can, at 2301 main street in Houston texas. <a href="http://www.texanscan.org/academies_main.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.texanscan.org/academies_main.asp</a><br />
The school went from unranked to &#8220;2&#8243; on a scale of 10 on great schools of texas. There is a lot more detailed information on that school than there is on the one dese is running here.</p>
<p>Perhaps the sab could save some time and money on the superintendent search and just have one of the state board members call Texas and tell them to send someone up here to replace Dr. Bourisaw. What good is a state takeover&#8212;if they don&#8217;t take over.</p>
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		<title>By: kjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Katherine. I kind of roamed all over that site---and found something from 6 months ago that I begged and begged and begged for. The daily attendance in st. louis schools seems to have been steady at 94 percent over the entire school year for the last three years--it was 94.2 three or four years ago. The media was fond of jumping up and down about the 72 percent or the 75 percent on the first day of school, and never following up about the other 175 or whatever days. 

I should have said 4300 goodfellow---I was looking for information on the Can academies charter school---which is sponsored by the people who took your power away last June 15th. It took about 20 minutes before I found anything---and it is mostly zeroes because they are in their first year. When I clicked the link to teacher information it came up file not available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Katherine. I kind of roamed all over that site&#8212;and found something from 6 months ago that I begged and begged and begged for. The daily attendance in st. louis schools seems to have been steady at 94 percent over the entire school year for the last three years&#8211;it was 94.2 three or four years ago. The media was fond of jumping up and down about the 72 percent or the 75 percent on the first day of school, and never following up about the other 175 or whatever days. </p>
<p>I should have said 4300 goodfellow&#8212;I was looking for information on the Can academies charter school&#8212;which is sponsored by the people who took your power away last June 15th. It took about 20 minutes before I found anything&#8212;and it is mostly zeroes because they are in their first year. When I clicked the link to teacher information it came up file not available.</p>
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		<title>By: Turd Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turd Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you can&#039;t beat em, get em to join&quot;.
I think we CAN beat them.....and it has the possibility to be quite easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you can&#8217;t beat em, get em to join&#8221;.<br />
I think we CAN beat them&#8230;..and it has the possibility to be quite easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Star Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Star Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must rise up and revolt against the damage that has been done to SLPS under the direction of that damn Slay! He wants gentrification with ethnic elimination of St. Louis city and its schools!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must rise up and revolt against the damage that has been done to SLPS under the direction of that damn Slay! He wants gentrification with ethnic elimination of St. Louis city and its schools!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Wessling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Wessling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kjoe,

The average teacher salary at Confluence Academy is $41,000/year.  Salary info can be found at www.dese.mo.gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kjoe,</p>
<p>The average teacher salary at Confluence Academy is $41,000/year.  Salary info can be found at <a href="http://www.dese.mo.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.dese.mo.gov</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: kjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>kjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who represents the teachers at 4700 goodfellow when they negotiate their salaries with The state board of education in Jefferson City? What is their average salary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who represents the teachers at 4700 goodfellow when they negotiate their salaries with The state board of education in Jefferson City? What is their average salary?</p>
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